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Hallo Leute,

nachdem das Thema schon mehrfach angesprochen wurde, machen wir es offiziell:

Wer kommt mit nach Italien?? Ich habe mir für die Zeit ein Wohnmobil gemietet und werde auf jeden Fall hinfahren.
Meine Idee wäre mit einem kompletten Team (Team Deutschland) dort aufzuschlagen, mit einheitlichen Klamotten auch als Team zu erkennen.
Ich habe geplant am Dienstag vor der WM loszufahren, vieleicht kann man eine Ferrari Werksbesichtigung organisieren (ist ja nicht weit weg).

Also tragt euch ein, wer sicher mitkommt.
Heiner Vogelgsang vom Harburgring ist auch mit ein paar Jungs dabei.

Hallo Tom,
ich bin natürlich dabei
Gruß
Bernhard Hirsch
Burgkirchen

Hallo Bernhard.
Habe gerade mal das originale Regelwerk nachgesehen.Dort steht nur:Pneumatici:Gomma nera.Also Schwarzer Gummi. Ohne auf "Gomma piuma",also Moosgummi einzugehen.Danach wären also Eure Reifen erlaubt.Weil Manfred da seine Zweifel hat.Wobei ich mich da aber trotzdem erkundigen würde,da den lieben Italienern da oft noch was einfällt. (Meine Erfahrungen als Teamchef der deutschen Offroadfahrer lassen mich dort misstrauisch sein)
Hansjörg

so Jungs,

langsam aber Sicher rückt die WM näher.
Weiß irgendjemand wann Nennschluss ist?
Es wäre schön, wenn wir mal schön langsam eine Liste machen.
Wer von euch hat denn die Möglichkeit, das Reglement zu übersetzten??

Soeben habe ich über das RC-Groups-Forum erfahren, dass in der Standard-Klasse bei der WM
das Motorlimit 27turn beträgt!!
Bezüglich Moosis bin ich gerade dran, zu klären.

Hallo Leute,

hier mal das Reglement in englisch:

2007 FIORANO (MODENA-ITALY) WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 1/5 SCALE BIKE RULES

1. Racing Classes:
1.1. Stock Bike:
· Electric powered standard class.
· Motors are to be only 27 turn stock, from the list of EFRA approved motors.
· No handout motors. Ball Bearings may be fitted.
· Batteries 7.2V NiCd or NiMh 6 cells maximum
· Minimum weight to be 1.9 Kg
· Only rear wheel speed controller electric braking system is allowed. Any mechanical braking system on either wheel is forbidden.
1.2. Super Bike:
· Electric powered modified class.
· 540 class size maximum. Brushed and Brushless motors permitted.
· No weight limit
· Batteries 7.5Vmax NiCd / NiMh 6 cells or 2 LiPo cells max
1.3. Nitro Bike:
· Nitro powered modified class.
· Max engine size 3.5cc (0.21ci) 2 stroke, 10cc (0.61ci) 4 stroke.
· No weight limit
· Fuel tank max 75cc limit.
· Two speed gears are not allowed

2. Construction Rules:
2.1. The bikes must have complete bodywork including rider and all of which should be painted.
2.2. The racer can complete the race in the event that the bike body/driver becomes damaged as long as that damage does not pose a risk to the other bikes or the Race Marshals.
2.3. The receiver antenna must be flexible.
2.4. No sharp figures are allowed on the bike for Marshals safety.
2.5. The complete exhaust system should be contained within the confines of the body work and fitted in such a way as to minimize the risk of injury to Marshals.
2.6. Bodywork and rider cannot be trimmed in a way that detracts from the bikes scale appearance.
2.7. Any form of aerodynamic aid not in keeping with the full size sport is not allowed.

3. Dimensions:
3.1. Wheel n°2, Wheelbase Max 320 mm, Min 270 mm.
3.2. Front and Rear Tyres Diameter Max 155 mm, Width Max 35 mm.
3.3. Front and Rear Rims Diameter Max 95 mm, Min 80 mm.
3.4. Height of bike including Rider Max 300 mm, Min 230 mm.

4. Tyres:
4.1. Tyres to be specifically available for 1/5 bikes and to be commercially available.
4.2. Tyres must be in black rubber except for sidewall detail.

5. Racing rules:
5.1. Friday 07: Free practice – Controlled practice.
5.2. Saturday 08: 5 Rounds of Qualifying Heats:
· Stockbike: 7 minutes rolling start qualifying heats.
· Superbike: 8 minutes rolling start qualifying heats.
· Nitrobike: 8 minutes rolling start qualifying heats.
· Qualifying order is established by taking the best heat result of each driver.
5.3. Sunday 09: Sub-Finals A/B upwards and Main events.
· Electric Class bikes Sub-Finals and Finals starts are 1 second delay staggered by Official hand launch. The first start is from n°1 to n°10, Next electric start order is from previous Semi-final or Final results.
· Nitrobike Class Sub-Finals and Final start is by flag. 30 seconds prior to start announcement, the bikes must go to mechanics in grid. Le Mans start type grid with bikes held by mechanics. Start by flag (or acoustical signal) after countdown from 10 to 3 sec. Penalty for early start.
· “A” series Sub-Finals will be composed of odd placed drivers after qualifications, “B” series Sub-Finals will be composed of even placed drivers after qualifications.
· Sub-Finals A/B upwards run by 10 drivers, best 3 of each Sub-Final move to the next Final. Each Final will be run by 10 drivers.
· The best 3 drivers of each Semi-Final round will move up to the Final along with the best 4 times remaining drivers from the 2 Semi-Finals combined.
· If weather conditions are different between the 2 Semi-Finals, Race Director may send to the Finals the first 5 drivers of each Semi-Final.
· Sub-Finals from 1/16 to 1/4 Stockbike Final: 7 minutes
· Sub-Finals from 1/16 to 1/4 Superbike Final: 8 minutes
· Sub-Finals from 1/16 to 1/4 Nitrobike Final: 8 minutes
· Stockbike Semi-Finals A-B: 2 round of 7 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Semi-Final driver results.
· Superbike Semi-Finals A-B: 2 round of 8 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Semi-Final driver results.
· Nitrobike Semi-Finals A-B: 1 round of 20 minutes race.
· Stockbike Finals: 3 round of 7 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Final results.
· Superbike Finals: 3 round of 8 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Final results.
· Nitrobike Final: 1 round of 30 minutes race.
· At least 3 minutes of gap between the end of one heat or Sub-Final and the start of the next.
· It’s possible to require a 10 min start delay only in first Semi-Finals and Finals and if the starter has not called 30 seconds to start. Any driver asking for a delay will start from the end of the grid (position 11).
5.4. Driver registration must involve:
· Confirmation of registration data such as Driver name, Country, frequencies, personal transponder number, list of materials.
· Paying € 40.00 for one class entry fee and € 20.00 for each additional class.
5.5. Transmitters must be impounded after request made by Race Director and at all times while the race is in progress. Transmitters are only released for the next race after all transmitters used in the previous race are impounded by the Official and the drivers leaving the rostrum.
5.6. In case of more drivers using the same frequency who qualify for the same sub-Final or Final, the faster qualifying driver will keep his frequency and the other must change.
5.7. When a change in frequency is required, up to 10 minutes must be allowed following notification to carry out the change.
5.8. All the models will be inspected at the end of all race heats and Sub-Finals to check for technical compliance. A violation of the rules produces disqualification to the single heat, Sub-Finals or Final.
5.9. The Race Director may stop a race session only for:
Sudden track moisture or bad weather.
Timekeeping system is non-functioning.
5.10. The drivers (or a substitute) must Marshal the heat or final following their own heat. The first heat will be marshalled by the drivers of the last heat.
5.11. Marshals have to stay in their own race number position at least 30 sec. to start.
5.12. Failure to Marshal will result in the loss of the driver’s best qualifying time. No penalty for leaving Marshal position to bring broken bikes to the pits.
5.13. The Marshals has to put the model near the exit point and launched on the linear section of the track.
5.14. The Marshals have to respect the running bikes lines before putting the exit model on the track.
5.15. May be right pick up the models by front wheel and rear tail. The bike must be launched by a gentle push from tail.
5.16. In case the loss of a part of the bike or the bodywork, the driver must return the bike to the pits and minimize the risk of injury to other bikes or Marshals.
5.17. If the silencer system fails or becomes detached during the Nitro class races, the driver must return to the pits immediately until the problem is fixed.
5.18. All bikes must have the race numbers on front and side parts.
5.19. May be better to use an electronic or mechanical system to stop the bike if it’s out of control.
5.20. The Race Director, Timekeeping Staff and Team Managers will resolve any problems not included in these rules. Their decision is a final decision.
5.21. Simply Sub-Finals upward method tree:
1+2+3 1+2+3



1+2+3 1+2+3

1+2+3 1+2+3
1/2A 1/2B
1+2+3 1+2+3

1/4A 1/4B


1/8A 1/8B 1/8B


1/16A 1/16B

Anmeldung hier:

2007 FIORANO (MODENA-ITALY) WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 1/5 SCALE BIKE RULES

1. Racing Classes:
1.1. Stock Bike:
· Electric powered standard class.
· Motors are to be only 27 turn stock, from the list of EFRA approved motors.
· No handout motors. Ball Bearings may be fitted.
· Batteries 7.2V NiCd or NiMh 6 cells maximum
· Minimum weight to be 1.9 Kg
· Only rear wheel speed controller electric braking system is allowed. Any mechanical braking system on either wheel is forbidden.
1.2. Super Bike:
· Electric powered modified class.
· 540 class size maximum. Brushed and Brushless motors permitted.
· No weight limit
· Batteries 7.5Vmax NiCd / NiMh 6 cells or 2 LiPo cells max
1.3. Nitro Bike:
· Nitro powered modified class.
· Max engine size 3.5cc (0.21ci) 2 stroke, 10cc (0.61ci) 4 stroke.
· No weight limit
· Fuel tank max 75cc limit.
· Two speed gears are not allowed

2. Construction Rules:
2.1. The bikes must have complete bodywork including rider and all of which should be painted.
2.2. The racer can complete the race in the event that the bike body/driver becomes damaged as long as that damage does not pose a risk to the other bikes or the Race Marshals.
2.3. The receiver antenna must be flexible.
2.4. No sharp figures are allowed on the bike for Marshals safety.
2.5. The complete exhaust system should be contained within the confines of the body work and fitted in such a way as to minimize the risk of injury to Marshals.
2.6. Bodywork and rider cannot be trimmed in a way that detracts from the bikes scale appearance.
2.7. Any form of aerodynamic aid not in keeping with the full size sport is not allowed.

3. Dimensions:
3.1. Wheel n°2, Wheelbase Max 320 mm, Min 270 mm.
3.2. Front and Rear Tyres Diameter Max 155 mm, Width Max 35 mm.
3.3. Front and Rear Rims Diameter Max 95 mm, Min 80 mm.
3.4. Height of bike including Rider Max 300 mm, Min 230 mm.

4. Tyres:
4.1. Tyres to be specifically available for 1/5 bikes and to be commercially available.
4.2. Tyres must be in black rubber except for sidewall detail.

5. Racing rules:
5.1. Friday 07: Free practice – Controlled practice.
5.2. Saturday 08: 5 Rounds of Qualifying Heats:
· Stockbike: 7 minutes rolling start qualifying heats.
· Superbike: 8 minutes rolling start qualifying heats.
· Nitrobike: 8 minutes rolling start qualifying heats.
· Qualifying order is established by taking the best heat result of each driver.
5.3. Sunday 09: Sub-Finals A/B upwards and Main events.
· Electric Class bikes Sub-Finals and Finals starts are 1 second delay staggered by Official hand launch. The first start is from n°1 to n°10, Next electric start order is from previous Semi-final or Final results.
· Nitrobike Class Sub-Finals and Final start is by flag. 30 seconds prior to start announcement, the bikes must go to mechanics in grid. Le Mans start type grid with bikes held by mechanics. Start by flag (or acoustical signal) after countdown from 10 to 3 sec. Penalty for early start.
· “A” series Sub-Finals will be composed of odd placed drivers after qualifications, “B” series Sub-Finals will be composed of even placed drivers after qualifications.
· Sub-Finals A/B upwards run by 10 drivers, best 3 of each Sub-Final move to the next Final. Each Final will be run by 10 drivers.
· The best 3 drivers of each Semi-Final round will move up to the Final along with the best 4 times remaining drivers from the 2 Semi-Finals combined.
· If weather conditions are different between the 2 Semi-Finals, Race Director may send to the Finals the first 5 drivers of each Semi-Final.
· Sub-Finals from 1/16 to 1/4 Stockbike Final: 7 minutes
· Sub-Finals from 1/16 to 1/4 Superbike Final: 8 minutes
· Sub-Finals from 1/16 to 1/4 Nitrobike Final: 8 minutes
· Stockbike Semi-Finals A-B: 2 round of 7 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Semi-Final driver results.
· Superbike Semi-Finals A-B: 2 round of 8 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Semi-Final driver results.
· Nitrobike Semi-Finals A-B: 1 round of 20 minutes race.
· Stockbike Finals: 3 round of 7 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Final results.
· Superbike Finals: 3 round of 8 minutes race. Sum of laps and times of each round results make a Final results.
· Nitrobike Final: 1 round of 30 minutes race.
· At least 3 minutes of gap between the end of one heat or Sub-Final and the start of the next.
· It’s possible to require a 10 min start delay only in first Semi-Finals and Finals and if the starter has not called 30 seconds to start. Any driver asking for a delay will start from the end of the grid (position 11).
5.4. Driver registration must involve:
· Confirmation of registration data such as Driver name, Country, frequencies, personal transponder number, list of materials.
· Paying € 40.00 for one class entry fee and € 20.00 for each additional class.
5.5. Transmitters must be impounded after request made by Race Director and at all times while the race is in progress. Transmitters are only released for the next race after all transmitters used in the previous race are impounded by the Official and the drivers leaving the rostrum.
5.6. In case of more drivers using the same frequency who qualify for the same sub-Final or Final, the faster qualifying driver will keep his frequency and the other must change.
5.7. When a change in frequency is required, up to 10 minutes must be allowed following notification to carry out the change.
5.8. All the models will be inspected at the end of all race heats and Sub-Finals to check for technical compliance. A violation of the rules produces disqualification to the single heat, Sub-Finals or Final.
5.9. The Race Director may stop a race session only for:
Sudden track moisture or bad weather.
Timekeeping system is non-functioning.
5.10. The drivers (or a substitute) must Marshal the heat or final following their own heat. The first heat will be marshalled by the drivers of the last heat.
5.11. Marshals have to stay in their own race number position at least 30 sec. to start.
5.12. Failure to Marshal will result in the loss of the driver’s best qualifying time. No penalty for leaving Marshal position to bring broken bikes to the pits.
5.13. The Marshals has to put the model near the exit point and launched on the linear section of the track.
5.14. The Marshals have to respect the running bikes lines before putting the exit model on the track.
5.15. May be right pick up the models by front wheel and rear tail. The bike must be launched by a gentle push from tail.
5.16. In case the loss of a part of the bike or the bodywork, the driver must return the bike to the pits and minimize the risk of injury to other bikes or Marshals.
5.17. If the silencer system fails or becomes detached during the Nitro class races, the driver must return to the pits immediately until the problem is fixed.
5.18. All bikes must have the race numbers on front and side parts.
5.19. May be better to use an electronic or mechanical system to stop the bike if it’s out of control.
5.20. The Race Director, Timekeeping Staff and Team Managers will resolve any problems not included in these rules. Their decision is a final decision.
5.21. Simply Sub-Finals upward method tree:
1+2+3 1+2+3



1+2+3 1+2+3

1+2+3 1+2+3
1/2A 1/2B
1+2+3 1+2+3

1/4A 1/4B


1/8A 1/8B 1/8B


1/16A 1/16B

Hallo Tom,
und für die Englisch - Analphabeten ( ich einbezogen )bitte noch übersetzen!
Gruß Thomas

Hi Thomas,

ich dachte mir englisch ist besser als italienisch.
Du kannst das Ganze ja ausdrucken und nach Fichtenberg mitnehmen,
dann können wir am Abend noch etwas drüber philosophieren.
Momentan haben sich bisher knapp 90 Fahrer angemeldet.
Was ich so mitbekommen habe, ist bei 150 Fahrern Schluss.
Wenn du mir per PN oder E-Mail deine Daten schickst (Adresse,Geburtsdatum, Modell, Transpondernummer, Klasse,
E-Mail, Telefon, Motor, Reifen usw.), dann melde ich dich gerne an.

Natürlich gilt das auch für alle Anderen, die verbindlich mitkommen.
Startgebühr € 40,-- für eine Klasse, jede Weitere € 20,--.

Ich bin auch gerade mit dem Akku-Hersteller Flightpower in Verhandlung.
Er wird das Team Germany unterstützen!!!!
Wie genau das funktioniert bitte per E-Mail oder PN!

Hallo Tom.
Da Du anscheinend das mit der Nennung für die WM übernimmst,hier meine Daten:
Hansjörg Böttcher,Crusiusstrasse 34 , 87700 Memmingen, hanjaboetti@aol.com 08331/4153
Eigenbau
Superbike
Motor GM oder Hacker
Reifen PMT/GRP
Graupner 388S 40MHz Syntheziser (Kanäle frei wählbar)
Transponder:PT AMB No.5663851
Wenn Du noch etwas wissen willst, kannst Du mich ja anklingeln.
Wie willst Du das Geld haben?
Hansjörg

Hallo Dr.TK.
Ich werde doch in Fichtenberg sein.Habe mich in meinem Termin mit Oschersleben verguckt.
Hansjörg

Hallo Leute,

wer möchte, kann sich über mich nennen.
Das Startgeld wird vor Ort bezahlt.
Wir sehen uns in Fichtenberg.

Hi Bötti,

Du bist angemeldet!!

Hier kann übrigends jeder die Regeln downloaden (english):

http://www.minicarfiorano.it/motorc/wc2007/ev_main.htm

Vieleicht findet sich jemand, der die Regeln übersetzten möchte.

Hallo Tom,
würde mich freuen wenn du meine Nennung erledigen könntest.
Bernhard Hirsch Kastanienweg 2 84508 Burgkirchen , hirsch.be@web.de , Tel 08679/2546
Deutschland
Bike: Hirsch Evo
Klasse: Superbike
Regler/Motor: Nosram Matrix Evolution mit Storm Star
Accu: Flight Power LiPo
Graupner XS-6 40MHz Syntheziser (Kanäle frei wählbar)
kein eigener Trandponder vorhanden, Frage ist, ob der Veranstalter Transponder zur Verfügung stellt?
Reifen PMT/GRP (gezwungenermasen!)
Leider hat uns Gregor in der Reifenfrage im Stich gelassen. Obwohl ich schon Anfang des Jahres den Kontakt zwischen Gregor und einem Reifenlieferanten von super Moosis (Rohlinge aus Japangummi in versch. Härten) hergestellt habe sind bis heute keine Moosis im Shop erhältlich und somit nicht komerziell verfügbar.
Das Reglement der WM ist auch nicht besonders schlüssig. Die Reifenbreite ist auf 35 mm festgeschrieben - das entspricht im M 1:5 einem 175 mm breitem Reifen und das haben schon 125 ccm Strassenmaschinen drauf. Moto GP Maschinen dürften bereits 240 mm Reifen - entspricht 48 mm im Modell!- fahren. Aber das ist ( noch ) nicht zu ändern .
Mit bestem Gruß
Bernhard

Hallo Bernhard,

wird gemacht!
Soweit ich richtig informiert bin, sind keine Moosis erlaubt.
Du solltest auf jeden Fall auf Hohlkammer-Reifen umbauen!!

Hi Bernhard,

du bist angemeldet!!
Ich habe mal meinen hinteren PMT gemessen, der ist 32mm breit.
Da sind anscheinend die Maße der angebotenen Reifen, auch wenn es im Verhältniss
nicht dem Orginal entspricht.
Ich gehe davon aus, daß es Leihtransponder gibt, bin mir aber noch nicht sicher.
Ich besorge mir sicherheitshalber einen Personal Transponder.